After finishing 4th place in the FIBA Asia Championship, the Smart Gilas program must continue even if the core players will go on to play in the PBA. The previous Smart Gilas players can still be used as reinforcements in future tournaments but a new core of players must be trained again.
Next Goal: 2013 FIBA Asia Championship (Top three teams will qualify for the 2014 FIBA World Championship)
Who will leave Smart Gilas?
1. JV Casio (Powerade)
2. Chris Lutz (Petron)
3. Marcio Lassiter (Powerade)
4. Mark Barroca (B-Meg)
5. Mac Baracael (Alaska)
6. Jason Ballesteros (Meralco)
7. Dylan Ababou (Barako)
8. Japeth Aguilar (Talk N Text)
Who will be left?
1. Marcus Douthit – He is now 31 years old and 33 in 2013, he can still play maybe until 35 years old
2. Chris Tiu – He is now 26 years old and 28 in 2013, he still has many years of play and will be able to teach the new core of players
3. Greg Slaughter (Now playing for Ateneo)
4. Aldrech Ramos (Now playing for FEU)
Who might be added to the team?
1. Kiefer Ravena (Now playing for Ateneo)
2. Bobby Ray Parks Jr. (Now playing for NU)
Who might coach the next Smart Gilas team?
1. Rajko Toroman – He must be extended for 2 more years
2. Chot Reyes
3. Norman Black
4. Tim Cone
5. Eric Altamirano
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Smart Gilas Basketball: As seen time and time again in Asian B.Ball, Phi can’t win because they suck at shooting free throws.
I agree with you! they should be able to shoot those free throws as they are practicing it almost everyday, but still i salute the team and i still believe we can do it , just continue the program and add more talented players i think we have now in PBA
and possibly remove douthit from the lineup. di ko ma sikmura na ang main man at goto guy ng Philippines ay taga america. grabe naman. SHOW SOME PHILIPPINE PRIDE!!! nung world war 2 sa americano tayo dumepende tapos nung nagkasirasira yung bansa. tydings mcduffie agad ang pinakita para pakawalan tayo kasi naging liability na ang bansa. wag kayong maniwala agad diyan sa mga kano. if we want to be accomplished in whatever area, we should stop depending on the western powers and start building a TRUE PHILIPPINE TEAM! same goes with our politics and media. masyadong influenced ng europa at amerika kaya di tayo umaasenso.
Tama ka din, panu kya makikilala ang pinoy kung may inport na player?
Kung wala si Douthit kangkungan tayo! WTF?! Phils Pride? san sa Pagnannakaw,lies & bad politcs. Nung WW2 under tyo ng Common wealth parang Hawaii & North Carolina. No.1 Tayo sa Asia in terms of economy & sports wala pa magnanakaw. Amerikano po nagturo sa atin ng English at private school. bka ikaw nka Levis jeans k? at yung asenso nasa sarili yan if masipag ka. Sana lang mka kuha ng Local talent na matangkad. by the way kano nagturo s atin ng Basketball!
hindi ko naman sinasabi na masama ang mga kano. sinasabi ko lang na ilang taon na ang nakalipas nung WW2 sa amerikano parin ba tayo magdedepende? ang daming pilipinong masipag ni magkakuba na sa pagsasaka umasenso ba? yung commonwealth transition government lang yun. controlado parin yun ng amerika na ang agenda ay gamitin ang bansa sa kanilang benefit. oo, nag tayo sila ng mga school at tinuran tayo ng etc… kaya napaamo tayo sa kanila. “you can never truly conquer a nation unless you have the people’s admiration” yung pag tatayo ng mga eskwelahan at ang pag papaamo nila sa atin ay ang TOTOONG PAGKAPANALO NG MGA KANO SA ATIN! kung lahat ng pinoy parehas ng isipan sayo di lagi nalang tayong tuta sa mga amerikanong yan!
FIBA Rules Allow one naturalized player. A lot of teams are now having one naturalized player.Even the European Champion Spain has one naturalized player. Follow lang tayo sa fiba rules.Kailangan tayo nang isang naturalized player dahil weak tayo sa Center Position. Wag tayong mag paka hero. Tangapin nalang natin na maliliit tayo talaga.Unfair then naman kung wala tayong naturalized then ang iba meron. It is already part of the FIBA Rules so gagamitin natin ang opportunity para ma improve ang ating team.
point taken sir.
Uhh @223434 Philippines does have a naturalised player havent u heard of Marcus Douthit 6’11 good scorer defender and rebounder he was a big reason we reached the final 4. So basically were not really weak in the centre spot anymore we just need speed and clutch shooting from the our guards and forwards
Tama, pero kung iisipin mo, lamang pa rin tayo kasi naiwan ung Iran e. ahahaha may NBA player p nmn cla.
good point, we beat iran, i hope we keep toroman and his system in place and hope smart doesnt scrimp/mag kuripot after our 4th finish…so uch potential ung future team
pwd magsuggest..try nio pag samahin cla..sol mercado at gabe norwood & ryan reyes sa pointguard at james yap& lassiter,bobby parks & sa shooting guard,arwind,kelly & nico salva,calvin abueva sa small forward,pf sila washington,rico maierhoper,japeth aguilar,center naman cila slaughter,douhit,fajardo..
center marcus,fajardo power forward,slouter,devance,williams shooting forward deocampo,raymundo,aguilar shooting guard aldrech,santos,james yap guard tenorio,alapag, practis lang sa malalaking player at sa mga shooter tapos pratisin din yung shooting guard kailangan taasan ang shooting gurads natin masyadon maliliit tapos shooting freetrows praktisin din saka dapat hindi kabado tutok nalang sablay pa freetrows sablay din pratisin na tong mga to habang maaga SA MGA Coach natin TRAIN NYO NA TO tumatanda na c alapag
kaya c castro isama na parks
dapat ang coach c jaworski para matapang turuan mangutak
JAWORSKI IS AN OVERRATED COACH. OLD SCHOOL PBA FAN, PSEW!
Quit comparing to the Jaworski’s coached national team. China and Korea were only the good teams back then. Quit living in the past, because the past was the reason we can’t play competitive basketball anymore.
JAWORSKI IS OLYMPIC PLAYER 2 TIMES YOU DONT KNOW THAT
We are talking about him a a Coach not as a Player. What kind of reason is that? And don’t talk to me about basketball like I don’t know anything. And don’t even try to bring up the silver medal in beijing 1990, any coach in the PBA could have done the same with the same players. as I’ve said before, the teams in Asia back then were not that good compare to the present Asian teams.
Not to mention, he was still playing in the PBA at the age of over 40 when he couldn’t play competitive basketball anymore, he was fortunate he was a playing-coach for with Ginebra, that alone only shows how low-quality was basketball back in the late 80′s to the mid 90′s. Having an old player play for marketing, no to better the quality and level of Philippine basketball, it always has been about “commercial sports.”
We are talking about him as a Coach not as a Player. What kind of reason is that? And don’t talk to me about basketball like I don’t know anything. And don’t even try to bring up the silver medal in beijing 1990, any coach in the PBA could have done the same with the same players. as I’ve said before, the teams in Asia back then were not that good compare to the present Asian teams.
Not to mention, he was still playing in the PBA at the age of over 40 when he couldn’t play competitive basketball anymore, he was fortunate he was a playing-coach for with Ginebra, that alone only shows how low-quality was basketball back in the late 80′s to the mid 90′s. Having an old player play for marketing, no to better the quality and level of Philippine basketball, it always has been about “commercial sports.”
We are talking about him a a Coach not as a Player. What kind of rebuttal was that? And don’t talk to me about basketball like I don’t know anything. And don’t even try to bring up the silver medal in 1990 Beijing, any coach in the PBA could have done the same with the same players. As I’ve said, the teams in Asia back then were not that good compare to the present Asian teams.
Not to mention, he was still playing in the PBA at the age of over 40 when it was obvious he couldn’t play competitive basketball anymore, only the overzealous fans of him cheered for him. He was fortunate he was a playing-coach in his team Ginebra, that alone only shows how low-quality was basketball back in the late 80′s to the mid 90′s. Having an old player play for marketing, but NOT to better the quality and level of Philippine basketball, it always has been about “commercial sports,” or should we just say… MONEY.
We are talking about him a a Coach not as a Player. What kind of rebuttal was that? And don’t talk to me about basketball like I don’t know anything. And don’t even try to bring up the silver medal in 1990 Beijing, any coach in the PBA could have done the same with the same players. As I’ve said, the teams in Asia back then were not that good compare to the present Asian teams.
Not to mention, he was still playing in the PBA at the age of over 40 when it was obvious he couldn’t play competitive basketball anymore, only his overzealous fans cheered for him. He was fortunate he was a playing-coach in his team Ginebra, that alone only shows how low-quality was basketball back in the late 80′s to the mid 90′s. Having an old player play for marketing, but NOT to better the quality and level of Philippine basketball, it always has been about “commercial sports,” or should we just say… MONEY.
U guys never learn, yeah those additions are really good but for f^%&sake, replace Tiu. We need tall and skilful high basketball IQ players. The average height of our players is 6’3, c’mon now? U saw it already… 6’3 player cant shoot with players 6’8 guarding them! They’ll gonna have a hard time. Pls pls pls! Learn from your mistakes. Get some vet pba players that has height, can run the ball, and of course, can defend. I just hope that lineup u presented is not final yet.
LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES.
i know a lot of people hate chris tiu for his performance and kasi ang isip ng mga tao na si chris puro pogi lang at natanggap lang sa team kasi magandang role model lang o ano pang etchos. pero he is actually one of the few players sa gilas na actually playing for the flag. not to mention that he is really filipino (lahat naman ata tayo may halong espanol at chinese na dugo.). Chris can improve his game and perhaps dapat pure point guard lang siya. ang liit kasi niya para sa sg position sa international play; provided na dedikado talaga siyang maglaro para sa bansa.
GOOD WORD…
good observation!
siguro po sa point of view eh dapat pa natin hangaan si chris tiu
kc instead of playing sa PBA eh mas pinili pa nya mag-stay sa national team…
ANG MASAKIT DON YUNG CHINA KOREA JAPAN TAIPEI WLANG IMPORT E DATI TALO SA ATIN ITONG MGA TEAM NA TO MAY KORAM ANG KOREA TAYO LAHAT HALOS SA TEAM PURO FILAM ANO BA NAMAN YAN DAPAT MAKILALA TAYO KAHIT WLANG IMPORT ANG MAGALING LANG SATIN IMPORT LANG 37 POINTS YUNG IMPORT NATIN NAKAKAHIYA SA MGA KALABANG BANSA
korea have TJ MOON…an american born player….naturalized korean player siya
i think Chris Tiu is not an effective point guard based sa nakita ko sa kanyang performance. mas bagay sa kanya ang 2 spot dahil magaling cyang defender ang kailangan lang nyang eh improve ang free throw nya chaka yung decision making nya dahil pag cya na ang nagdadala nang bola kalimitan TO ang results lagi kasi cyang dribble. kailangan cyang tularan dahil sa kanyang loyalty sa team dahil sa pag stay nya dito. cegurado akong magiimprove cya at magiging mentor cya sa mga susunod na players ng team Philippines! and sana kunin parin nilang head coach c mr. Rajko Toroman napakagaling nyang coach! Go Chris! Go Philippines! babawi tayo sa susunod na fiba Asia Championship!! we will continue to support you guys!! we love you all!!
I give my deepest sympathy to the gilas team. You did great, heads up to you. wag po kayong malungkot kung hindi man tayo nakakuha ng wild card sa london olympics dahil hindi po nauubos ang opportunity kung naniniwala kang meron pa, pag nawalan na tayo ng pag-asa doon nauubos ang opportunity natin for olympics birth. basta hanga po ako sa inyo, you made us proud guys.
Smart Gilas did a great job, they were the most prepared Philippine team that represented the country, but unfortunately, it was not enough.. We could have done better, with the program that smart gilas has and if only the PBA teams will cooperate, we could send the most talented team to represent the country. I’m listing here my 15 man pool for the next FIBA qualifiers.
1. Jimmy Alapag – 5’9″
2. L.A. Tenorio – 5’8″ He may be small, but he has a big heart, very
cerebral playmaker and consistent 3 point
shooter. can hit big shots in crucial moments.
3. Marcio Lassiter – 6’3″
4. James Yap – his shooting is always needed in international play.
5. Marcus Douthit – 6’11″
6. Jay Washington-6’7″ Versatile player can play both forward
positions and also can shoot knockdown shots
outside
7. Arwind Santos- 6’3″ good defensive player and rebounder, can also
shoot outside. He can guard bigger shooting
guards of other teams.
8. Sonny Thoss – 6’7″ Able back up for Marcus Douthit, can also shoot
from the perimeter
9. Joe Devance – 6’7″ versatile player, can play both forward
positions,good shooting touch from the 3-point
line.
10.Kelly Williams – 6’7″
11.Ranidel De Ocampo – 6’6″
12.Marc Pingris – 6’4″ good defender and rebounder,quick for his size,
energy guy, can guard multiple positions from
shooting guards to power forwards.
13.Ray Parks Jr. – 6’4″ talented big shooting guard, he also showed
what he can do during last youth olympics (3
on 3 basketball)
14. Chris Tiu – 6’0″
15. Chris Lutz – 6’4″
COACH – Rajko Toroman
This line up is just my opinion, If only all major basketball officials will commit to help our team and loan their players, I think we could do better in the next FIBA qualifiers. The Smart Gilas Program is in place, We have a good coach with international experience and next should be the most prepared and the best players that the Philippines has.
I agree…
We should not pick players because they play good in the PBA, some of the bench players in the PBA can play better “inernational basketball” than some starters and all-stars in your beloved PBA. We should base the line-up on how the player’s game could have a strong-consistent-presence in international games. James Yap? Fonacier? Tenorio? Even we give these players more practice they will always be inconsistent, maybe if they started when they were younger they could make a difference. Hontiveros is a steady shooter, better than J. Yap in international games. Tenorio is good but he is not an Alapag who can jump and shoot the three with ease. Fonacier doesn’t play defense, how can he guard taller and quicker guards? Thoss? Too thin to play back up to play defense, if we would still have Douthit, we need a back-up in center position who can play aggressive defense in short minutes. I see that the kind of line-up you and the others proposed were all scorers, we don’t need that kind of line-up, we need some role players, defensive specialist, a designated shooter and a consistent 2nd scorer to Douthit.
we badly need a backup center for douthit. From what i’ve heard there is Slaughter and Fajardo. if it is true then they should hire 2 strength and conditioning coaches (one conditioning coach and one baketball coach) for each individual to build speed, stamina and accuracy. similar to that of pacquiao’s Alex Ariza and Dirk Norwitzki’s personal trainer/conditioning coach. The conditioning coach is to build muscles in the right places and muscles they never used before while the basketball coach coincides with the fundamental post moves and shooting skills their position(Center/power forward) needs. The two must go hand in hand in order for the conditioning coach to device a better and effective program for the players he needs the guidance of an open minded basketball coach in order for his program to work… same with our shooting guards, point guards and small forwards.. Michael Jordan had one, Kobe Bryant has one i don’t see why each of the Smart Gilas players shouldn’t have 2 for each player
Watching the PBA always make me wan’na change the channel, only old puppies watch the game now a days…
EXACTLY!!! Long-term commitments and basketball program for international competition. Smart-Gilas players should get a bigger pay check than those lazy-out of shape PBA players.
agree ako kay slaughter at fajardo maging backup kay marcus, special attention should be given to these two guys via stregths and conditioning coaches for big men must be afforded these two guys…their role will be that of role players.
larger compensation must be given by smart to these guys for representing flag and country.
get parks and ravena on board for long tour of duty…at least 2 years.
pba reinforcements like williams, washington, devance or santos is needed.
i hear that tiu and aguilar will stay…thats good.
mercado, alapag, tenorio for guards…but i prefer young guards to develop, larger, good IQ and potentially an outside threat…any suggestions?
2 more role players are needed…to be defensive stoppers.
TAGAL NAG PRACTIS TAPOS MAY NATURALIZE PA 4TH PADIN ANAK NG FILAM NAMYAN
TAMA! TAMA!
uhm… redirected to douthit.
oo nga e, hayss..
i think pwede ring isama sina………sudan daniel,ronald pascual,calvin abueva,at garvo lanite
NEXT TIME DAPAT KASAMA YAN
We should not pick players because the paly good in the PBA, we should base the line-up on how their game can go along in international games. James Yap? Fonacier? Tenorio? Even we give these players more practice they will always be inconsistent, Hontiveros is a steady shooter, better than J. Yap in international games. Tenorio is good but he is not an Alapag who can jump and shoot the three with ease. Fonacier doesn’t play defense, how can he guard taller guards? Thoss? Too thin to play back up to play defense, if we would still have Douthit, we need a back-up in center position who can play aggressive defense in short minutes. I see that the kind of line-up you and the others proposed were all scorers, we don’t need that kind of line-up, we need some role players, defensive specialist, a designated shooter and a consistent 2nd scorer to Douthit.
i agree but to be honest, douthit should not even be with the Philippine team.
The it only means you have not grown as a basketball fan. He didn’t do anything wrong, he was the reason why we had the chance to win it all. It was not his fault he’s an American. Basketball is a Global Sports. With out the Fil-ams or one naturalized players, just pure Filipino players, I guarantee you that even we practice everyday with your kind of Philippine team will never even reach the top 5 in the next 10 to 15 years in FIBA-Asia, unless our players decide to work-out the way NBA players do. People hate on the Fil-ams due to insecurities, when in fact, these players some people hate have been the reason why the our country still have a good professional league (good but not that good).
@nope…
The it only means you have not grown as a basketball fan. Douthit didn’t do anything wrong, he was the reason why we had the chance to win it all. It was not his fault he’s an American. Basketball is a Global Sports. With out the Fil-ams or one naturalized players, just pure Filipino players, I guarantee you that even we practice everyday with your kind of Philippine team will never even reach the top 5 in the next 10 to 15 years in FIBA Asia, unless our players decide to work-out the way NBA players do. People hate on the Fil-ams due to insecurities, when in fact, these players some people hate have been the reason why our country still have a good professional league (good but not that good).
I personally have no ill motion towards Douthit’s status as a fil am and as a basketball player; and YES! he did play his heart out but I can’t possibly embrace a player who isn’t a native of the country. As far as dedication is concerned, the probability of Douthit sugar coating his words of loyalty to the Philippines is VERY HIGH! He is no native of the country. I support the azkals however because we were never a ‘soccer country’ and as such it is perhaps wise to import fil ams to play for us and orient the filipinos in playing the sport (the way Europe has been playing soccer). But basketball? Having to rely heavily on an import despite the fact that the country has been playing the game for decades?!… Seems wrong to me.
I heard that Demarcus Cousins from the Nba is quarter filipino i think the Smart Gilas should target him and offer him a spot on the national team
KOREK KA DYAN ANG NA KILALA LANG SA ATIN AY YUNG IMPORT E
TAKOT YUNG IBANG BANSA SA ATIN DAHIL SA IMPORT
DATI TAKOT SA RP YUNG IBANG BANSA DAHIL SA NA PIPINGGOK YUNG MGA STAR PLAYER NILA
agree!
pero parang suntok sa buwan yan sir kc mas malamang na hindi ipapahiram ng mga pba teams ung kanilang players for a long period of time…
bat isasama c castro? walang outside shooting un. d pwede sa international games ung guard na walang outside threat.
may shooting si casio, magaling sya sa tres, nagkataon lang na d pumapasok minsan. Bat sya ipapasok kung wala sa shooting sa tres. Required yun sa mga guards ng smart gilas. NOOB
Mag sorry ka k Bobogilas nagkamali ka si Castro ang sinasabi nya hay! para kang si Chris Tiu pag nagkamali sisi sa referee.
PWEDE DIN C CASTRO MAY TIRA KUNG KAILANGAN SAKA MAGALING SA STLS
DATI C MARTIREZ WLANG TIRA PERO NAKARATING SA OLYMPICS DAHIL SA MGA STLS NYA
,.another delayed success in team PILIPINAS but we must still believe that we can reach to the top..GO GILAS we appreaciate all the hardwork and effort,..looking forward to bounce back.
Post nyo pangalan nyo, dpt responsable kau s mga pnagsasabi nyo,
Sad and frustrating, As a basketball fanatic. You let us down guys.
Hindi ko alam kun cno nagde decide tlga ng rotation ksi prng hndi lng c Coach T,
1st. Substitution/Rotation error, (This is very important s crucial games, un tamang pagpasok ng isang player)Nun laban sa Jordan, mganda ang laro ni Casio pero mas bnigyan ng playing time c Alapag knowing n hndi ok un laro ni Jimmy ksi slow pag set up nya s half court nasisira tempo, but against Korea oki un laro nya at hindi k alm kun my nkabasa nun comments k ksi Alapag adjusted s pag setup, pero ngaun naman mas pinapasok c Casio n hndi oki un laro nya.2nd. Pinasok c Mac against Korea,from my comments against Jordan na mgaling c Mac umatake ng zona s shot selection ny within the perimeter pero hindi sya pinasok noon, but this time against Korea hndi ganun ka-active c Mac s depensa, tingnan nyo uli,
naiiwanan sya nun shooter n mainit from korea e ms maliit sya dun, Coach T should have put Mac on Tae Jee Moon (un naturalized) ksi hndi un ganun kabilis and c Lassiter sna un pnabantay nla dun s isa. Against Jordan wala cla mgawa s zona,
3rd. Freethrows, History repeats itself kun hndi tau matutoto, from the tym of Olsen to this time. Mental toughness kelangan dyan ksi wala naman nagbabantay sau, un basics s pag freethrow alam n nla un, Bend your knees and focus s spin ng bola don’t shoot it with most of ur palms, feel the groove ng bola with your fingers and uppermost ng palm then try to spin it,the arc goes with the knees, Try nyo and tell me if I’m wrong.
This sums up what happened and what could’ve been done. From the last two
games they did’nt want it more than their opponents. ‘Yan ang heart of the Champion na cnsbi, hndi pride.
Do you think smart gilas program should continue? Yes, pero hndi n dpat dun gling ang core ng team para s future competitions. I say, Get the Mythical team sa PBA then all the rest s smart gilas program. Under Coach Toroman p din ksi kita nyo naman un systema, S rotation naman dapat handa each player, if you want it, show it. 2 to 3 turnovers lbas k muna.Plus a naturalized with height, Marcus was very good pra na taung may import dun. Disadvantage, hndi din tau cgrdo dun ksi hndi all out maglaro ang mga professionals hndi tulad noon unang panahon nina Loyzaga, Puso ang problema. Kun from the ranks of amateurs naman, un consistency, shot selection,finishing that goes with experience. Also most important, kun nais p din ni Sir MVP mag sponsor, ksi wala naman ibng myayaman n gusto. ksi titingnan mo, iti train un mga napili under the program, gumaling na dhil na expose s international competitions tas papasok sa pro league, nasaan ang patriotism at dedication? Hndi katulad ni Chris tiu na playing for flag tlga, he has done magnificent job on Daghles defensively, pero d k maintindhan kut bkt kinokontest nla jumpshot nun e d nman ganun kgaling s shooting, kmbga focus k lng s depensa ng pag pasa nya.Sympre attracted un iba s money and popularity playing in the pro league,I’m not sure pero somehow affected din un laro nun mga pumasok s pro league ksi prng hindi n gnun katindi mithiin for olympics.
S pro league naman, bka po pdeng mag adjust say at least a conference n i adopt nyo un FIBA style, especially fouls and un zone defense, it’ll help a lot s basketball ntn,nd maybe manood n uli ak ng PBA. With this conference din pkitanggal nun height limit s imports, pra masanay cla n matatangkad klaban, i know hndi ok dito un iba pero ksi nkikita ntn dominating cla pero pgdting s international nawawala, how can we measure up s klaban kun cla cla ngalalaban. Ok un overall performance ng smart gilas, 2 yrs. preparation,un ibng bansa naman 2ld ng Jordan, Iran. how many years un pagsasama to solidify their team. But hndi to un
point, Mico halili,Jason webb,Richard del rosario b un commentator n nerbyoso and saying it was the best finish of our team after 2 decades, the point is they we’re given the chance, un break (kagatin m n), alam naman ntn dba pag playoffs puso n tlga nangigibaw more than skill, I know they played hard against Korea (but not against Jordan-un zone defense issue dun,ala cla mgawa) pero maaring matagal n uli tau mbgyan nun break, un groupings, etc. Kaya gnun panghihinayang namin, It was a heart breaker n nman, Un s finshings naman with the past teams lalo n un all
PBA selections ang taas ng expectations namin pero ala, then how on earth can we be proud of our PRO league, our nation and as an individual, a filipino. we are blinded with the phrase “Iba ang dugong Pinoy”, diba may advertisement p nga using PACQUIAO n cnbing we can achieve coz we’re pinoy, that’s unacceptable.
Where PACQUIAO is, is not bcoz He is a PINOY, It is bcoz of his determination, descipline and most of all with the blessing of God. Do all pinoys posses this? or least do this, I’m am now thinking we Pinoys can’t excel with team plays (basketball) not if we’re pushed to our limits (EDSA revolutions) that’s why as a nation also we don’t go well.(Economy,Politics, etc.).
DAPAT ANG MGA TEAMS SA PBA ANG FOCUS HINDI MAG CHAMPION LANG KUNDI PARA SA BANSA MAG TRAIN CLA NG MGA BIG MAN KSI PURO POINT GUARD ANG MAHALAGA
MAGANDA MAG DRIBOL WLANG ISKOR YUN PAG KUMUHA KASI NG POINT GUARD MAGALING NAAGAD D NA TUTURUAN PAG BIG MAN TUTURUAN PA
MALI CLA DON KUNG BIG MAN AT NATUTONG MAG POINT GUARD PROBLEMA NA NG IBANG TEAM YUN KUNG PAPAANO BABANTAYAN KAYA DAPAT MAG TRAIN NG POING GUARD NA BIG MAN KAGAYA NI JAWO GINAGAWANG POINT GUARD C LOYZAGA E 6/4 YUN SHOOTER PA KAYA NAG POST UP LANG KINA PUMAREN KAYANG KAYA NYA
we are blinded with the phrase “Iba ang dugong Pinoy”, diba may advertisement p nga using PACQUIAO n cnbing we can achieve coz we’re pinoy, that’s unacceptable.
Where PACQUIAO is, is not bcoz He is a PINOY, It is bcoz of his determination, descipline and most of all with the blessing of God. Do all pinoys posses this?
> Mostly NOT! You nailed that comment with a hammer, I agrre with you. Pinoys always selpromote themselves as “basta pinoy magaling, masipag, conservative or matulunginn, taling abut themselves like the other countries doesn’t have those traits and qualities. Puro satsat pero kulang sa gawa, then if there’s a pinoy who says otherwise they’ll tell that pinoy “para kang hindi Filipino magsalita.” When in fact, that kind of Filipino is the real Filipino because he is opens his mind and his heart to accept the fact even when it hurts, to move on to improve ourselves as a society.
D BALENG KULELAT BASTA PURONG PINOY ANG NALALARO PILAYIN YUNG KALABAN OK NA D BALENG TALO BASTA PANALO SA BALDAGAN KAGAYA NG GINAWA NI DEOCAMPO SA JAPAN AT TAIWAN PUTOK ANG MUKA HAHA NICE DIRTY PLAY
we are blinded with the phrase “Iba ang dugong Pinoy”, diba may advertisement p nga using PACQUIAO n cnbing we can achieve coz we’re pinoy, that’s unacceptable.
Where PACQUIAO is, is not bcoz He is a PINOY, It is bcoz of his determination, descipline and most of all with the blessing of God. Do all pinoys posses this?
> Mostly NOT! You nailed that comment with a hammer, I agree with you. Pinoys always self-promote themselves as “basta pinoy magaling, masipag, conservative or matulungin, talking about themselves like the other countries doesn’t have those traits and qualities. Puro satsat pero kulang sa gawa, then if there’s a pinoy who says otherwise they’ll tell that pinoy “para kang hindi Filipino magsalita.” When in fact, that kind of Filipino is the real Filipino because he is opens his mind and his heart to accept the fact even when it hurts, to move on to improve ourselves as a society.
We can almost taste the olympic dream that we have been chasing but maybe it is not yet time. I feel sorry for our loss but still proud of what our gilas team have accomplished. We still have a long way to go but we are getting there. Mabuhay ang team Pilipinas.I am proud to be a pilipino…
Ayan post k name k ha! sobra haba naman ng comment u irrelevant naman iba. Joke lan. Nung naging side kick ni coach T si Chot Reyes na iba takbo ng Gilas. Nawalan ng playing time si Aguilar. Si Tiu nakababad dami error. Mag PBA na lan sya dun bagay lebel ng laro ni Tiu. Correct 6’3 at 6’5 forward. Guards lan sa other country. Height is matter sa bsktball. but Alapag is exceptional yung skill. Now mag invest na tayo sa tall player. kahit banban ma e train p. -Nung last 2 mins vs Korea parang agawan buko laro ng Pinoy hirap sa rebound. Again n.. Again free throw more Practice. konting I.Q libre na sa line dapat ma e shoot u yan!
TAASAN NATIN ANG PLAYERS
CENTER
1. Douthit 6/11
2. FAJARDO 6/10 MALAKAS TO TUTURUAN NALANG
PF
3. SLAUTHER 7.0
4. DEOCAMPO 6.9
5. WILLIAMS KABADO TO
SF
6. DEOCAMPO 6.6
7. DEVANCE 6.7
SG
8. AGUILAR 6.9 PWEDENG SF SG TANGA LANG YUNG MGA COACH
9. A SANTOS 6.4 ALL POSITION PF SF SG GUARD
10.FANACIER
GUARD
11.TENORIO 5/10
12.ALAPAG 5/8
RES.
13. CASTRO FOR DEFENSE MAY TIRA KUNG KAILANGAN SA STEEL MAY PAKINABANG DATI C MARTIREZ WLANG SHOOTING PERO SA STEEL PROBLEMA NG IBANG TEAM
14. PARKS TRAIN NA ITO FOR POINT GUARD KASO YUNG MGA COACH GINAGAWANG SF
15. ABUEVA GAWIN TONG BIG GUARD TURUAN SA 3 MAGULANG TO PRANG JAWO
COACH JAWORSKI DISTRITO LOYZAGA PRAPATAYAN NALANG KUNG TALO
DNAMAN KAILANGAN NG MAHABANG PRATIS 4 YEARS NAG PRACTIS YUNG SMART GILAS
4TH PLACE PARIN C TOROMAN
C JAWO NOON 1990 ISANG LINGGO LANG NAG PRAKTIS PERO NKA SILVER MEDAL TAPOS MALILIIT LANG PLAYER NON PERO BUO ANG LOOB C JERRY LANG ANG WLA DUN
NAKALARO C CODINERA NOON SIGURADO TALO CHINA TAPOS ISASAMA MO PO C DOUTHIT MARAMING TATALUNIN SA OLYMPICS YUNG TEAM NG 1990 DOUTHIT PARAS LOYZAGA PATRIMONIO FERNANDEZ CAIDIC SAMBOYLIM MAGSANOC CALMA ESPLANA CUENCO GUNZALGO RIALUBIT RESERVE TENG ASAYTONO
@DBEST MAN .. tama ka ang huling Best finish ng Philippine team ay yung 1990 Philippine team headed by Coach Jaworski na isang linggo lang ang practice, very small lineup pero buo ang loob.. si Paras naalala ko nag drive at nag dunk sa harap ng 7’7 player ng north korea.. at 6’5 lang ang tallest player natin.. very ironic nga eh considering na mas kulang tayo sa height noong araw at mas less yung athleticism ng mga players tapos under paid pa yung mga PBA players at halos isang linggong practice lang naka sungkit pa ng silver medal dahil nga puso at buo ang loob ng bawat isa sa kanila.. ok at agree naman ako sa mga comments ng iba na mag train ng big men para lumakas ang center at power forward positions natin gagaling din yung mga yun pero dapat ang pinaka unang titingnan sa player na i-train ay yung puso at buo ang loob… kasi kahit mapagaling mo nga pero kulang sa puso every time na end game ay lagi nalang magkakalat ang team pinas..
isa sa mga gusto kong team ay yung philippine team ni Tim Cone kahit na 4th place finish lang tayo kasi kulang sa practice time parang 1year preparation lang yata yun eh pero hindi tayo nag kulang sa height and skills.. except for the Center position (Aquino, Seigle and Feihl)lahat ng players sa lahat ng position ay pwede mag 3 points at buo ang mga loob nila diba nga nakipag upakan sila sa mga players ng NCAA division 1 college team sa USA.. ang main problem lang nila noon ay kulang sa praparation at hindi sanay sa depensang FIBA kaya puro fouls (nakaka sira ng momentum) sanay kasi sila sa depensang PBA na wrestling oriented defense.. kung nabigyan lang ng support at oras yung team ni Tim Cone noon at hindi agad binuwag kahit 4th place finish lang sigurado tinatalo na noon pa man natin ang China at iba pang strong ASIAN teams kasi feeling ko perfect ang system ni Cone for International Basketball.. Hindiako fan ni Cone ha Galit nga ako sa kanya for the longest time dahil tinatalo nya lagi mga favorite teams ko.. pero kung titingnan mo talaga at i review yung mga centennial team games nya makikita nyo point ko..
Even USA needs enough practice now a days, the game is different now. You are so full of it. If Paras and company find the “fountain of youth,” even your Jaworski, do you really believe they can win silver in FIBA playing the present teams in Asia? Maybe if Samboy (my idol) were 6’4″, Patrimonio were 6’4″ with a wider body or 6’7″ with the same frame, Caidic if he could only dribble like a guard and Calma being over 6 feet, maybe we’ll stand a chance. We should not live in the past because people in the 90′s era were also talikng about the same heart-breaking “what if” situation, fans were talking about the silver medal finish with Caloy Loyzaga in the world championship because we were a basketball power… A basketball power during the time when most countries doesn’t know how to play basketball.
Duane Bishop, i do get your point if you only read my reply in the other page.. I answered that in fairness to smart gilas team i expected the end results. If only the PBA players were there to practice with them for at least 2 years we would have placed higher and only then would Coach Rajko’s system work. I am a fan of Basketball and understand clearly how basketball is played today as compared to the early years. I am not living in the past glory days of PBA legends, i merely pointed out that the Korea loss was the result of nasty Filipino “NBA” style basketball habits (which is one on one).. I also pointed out that if Cone’s centennial team was prepared and supported like the Smart Gilas was we would have placed higher than 4th as you see that team did not lack in height only in preparation our average height of that team was 6’7 and from the power forward down to the guards everyone could shoot from the outside. They were only prepared for like a year.. how would you expect them to place higher as they were not a cohesive unit as seen in their plays?(but they still ended up 4th place) The basketball world has caught up with the NBA today and I truly support and believe Coach Rajko’s system because he has beaten the Mighty China at a time when we thought that China was Invincible. And coach Jong Uichico’s national team that lost to Korea who eventually went on to beat China? same thing happened to us we faltered in the end game.. but that Korea team had the same average height as our national team at that time. I also pointed out that there are other PBA players who are not suited for the pros but are very effective in International brand of basketball..
My reply was for dBestman
I know u have a good point, nardski…
Even USA need enough practice now a days, the game is different now. You are so full of it. If Paras and company find the “fountain of youth,” even your Jaworski, do you really believe they can win silver in FIBA playing the present teams in Asia? Maybe if Samboy (my idol? were 6’4″, Patrimonio were 6’4″ with a wider body or 6’7″ with the same frame, Caidic if he could only dribble like a guard and Calma being over 6 feet. We should not live in the past because people in the 90′s era were also talikng about the same thing (almost), because they were talking about the silver medal finish with Caloy Loyzaga in the world championship… During the time when the world doesn’t know how to play basketball.
OO KAYA NILANG MANALO SYEMPRE YUNG OUTSIDE SHOOTING NILA DI NAWAWALA YUNG FREE THROW NILA SURE YON MALIIT LANG C PARAS KOREK KA DON PERO NATALO BA NI TAULAVA C PARAS NOON KAGALINGAN PA NI TAULAVA NG HULING MVP NI PARAS ERIC MENK ANDON DIN PERO CNO NAG CHAMPION DBA C PARAS TAPOS NA RETIRE NA SYA
SA IBANG PLAYERS 3 POINT SHOOTING NO MATCH ANG KOREA SA 3 POINT KINA CAIDIC LOYZAGA MAGSANOC SLIM CALMA NA HINDI NAG EEROR
KAHIT NGAYON PATIRAHIN MO NG TRES SI CAIDIC
FREE THROW LANG ANG KINATALO NG RP SA KOREA
SA RP TEAM 1990 KAHIT SINO MAG FREE THROW DOON SURE YUN PASOK YUN SUMAKAY KAPA ANG DIOLOG NOON PAG NAG FREE THROW C NA PATRIMONIO LOYZAGA MAGSANOC LIM CALMA AND THE REST …
wag nlang si alapag..gabe norwood nlang pti sol mercado
dbestman your correct pwedeng sg/sf si japeth aguilar and one of the another reason kaya natalo RP kasi binangko nila si japeth aguilar exhausted na sila ranidel at kelly hndi muna nila pinalitan si japeth
dbestman your correct pwedeng sg/sf si japeth aguilar and one of the another reason kaya natalo RP kasi binangko nila si japeth aguilar exhausted na sila ranidel at kelly dapat pinasok muna nila si japeth.
Wag na yan PBA!!!!!!!!!!!! PILIPINAS kung PILIPINAS! Get money from all politicians na magnanakaw and Jueteng (legal & kunyari legal). Sign 14 -16 players for Gilas 8 years contract.
I agree with the longer years of contract that you’ve said. Kaylangan focused on one thing lang ang maglalaro for the Philippine team, or at least meron silang priority everytime na kaylangan sila.
Lahat naman ng ipinasok ni Toroman sa game ay may skills, and they do good with those skills that they have. Wag na natin ipoint out masyado yung about sa height, hey guys look at the bright side, average height natin is 6’3 but we’re top four sa FIBA-ASIA, di hamak na mas maganda ang tayo natin ngayon unlike the previous years. Maybe the height factor plays a role, but its not a major role. Kung mas matagal lang ang naging dedication and preparation ng lahat ng player ng team for the team, maybe we couldve gotten higher up the ladder. Ang kulang sa kanila ay yung PLAYING-TIME-TOGETHER. Mas magiging maganda ang ikot ng bola, at hindi lang focused kay Douthit ang opensa, kapag alam ng ibang players ang lahat ng plays at ready sila mag step up at any given day, walang magiging shaky fingers na problema pag crunch time.
Coach Toroman must stay. Continuity is the key, hindi yung palit ng palit. The system is there, all they have to do is immerse themselves (the players) into it and be totally familiarized. Maybe add a few bigger and quicker wingmen? And play more international basketball. Kulang lang tayo sa international exposure. The meltout in the 4th quarter is normal and expected. The players werent bonded enough and they dont know the feeling of losing in the dying minutes of the game. You can’t expect a player to have nerves of steel in the crucial endgame kung first timer lang siya… Even PBA player K.Will missed his FTs because he felt the pressure… I am proud of the team kasi kahit 4th place finish lang tayo, we can see na everybody gave their hearts out.
Isa lang ang gumugulo sa isip ko: What happened to Japeth Aguilar? I know he’s on the bench for a reason… What seems to be the reason? I know Baracael was benched because he’s a step slow sa depensa. Is Japeth a step slow too? Hindi ba macompensate ng height nya ang quickness na hinahanap ni Toroman? hmmmm… I hope somebody could explain this….
Smart Gilas, on to 2013 FIBA ASIA CHAMPIONSHIPS!
6/3 + IMPORT MALAKAS TALAGA YUN
1990 ASIAN GAMES 1 WEAK LANG NAG PRAKTIS 6/4 LANG ANG CENTER SILVER MEDAL NAMAN JAWO YUNG COACH KUNG NILAGAY MO C Douthit NOON BAKA TINALO NATIN YUNG IBANG TEAM SA OLYMPICS HINDI LANG CHINA
KSE KUNG CHINA LANG C CODINERA LANG ANG KULANG NON KYA NG TALUNIN YUNG CHINA
BENCH PLAYERS LANG C AGUILAR HABANG BUHAY KAY TOROMAN AT C BARACAEL
PURONG PINOY DAW KASI
Agree ako sayo Sam na continuity is the key! kung totoong hindi nagwowork yung system ni Coach Rajko eh bakit natin natambakan yung korea sa 1st half? ibig sabihin nyan the “System” works!paano nakahabol ang korea at natalo tayo? ans.- sobrang kumpyansa kaya tayo nahabol.. nang mahabol tayo tsaka tayo nagkalat at bumalik yung mga bad habits (one on one)(sabi nga ni Freddie Roach: “I don’t care what Flyd Sr. says how Ricky Hatton has changed his fighting style for Manny, once he gets hit he will start fighting like the old Ricky hatton does”) kulang ang oras at panahon ng PBA players sa smart Gilas at kulang din ang International exposure ng mga ito kaya pag abot sa end game hindi mo masisi ang mga ito dahil nakakalimutan nila ang system at natataranta.. expected ko ang resulta pero natuwa ako sa nakita kong improvement ng Gilas as compared to 2 years ago sobrang layo! all praise ako kay MVP sana ipagpatuloy nya yung supporta sa Smart Gilas.. Sana lang palitan na ng PBA yung pro rules nila into FIBA rules para naman makahabol tayo sa world basketball system at IQ, at FIBA trained lahat ng referees… tulad ng mga europeans kaya sila madalas ang champions eh.
mythical 5 ng PBA dapat isali…at dapat isabay si Douthit at TAulava inside…
Laki na ng ibinagal ng laro ni Taulava… dati sobrang dominant nya… ngayon step slower na cya palagi… ang upside nalang nya talaga eh ang lakas ng katawan, hindi papabangga kahit sa 7-footer…
DAPAT SA PBA IPASOK YUNG MGA BIG MAN HINDI PINAPAUPO
DAPAT APAT NA BIG MAN ISANG POINT GUARD YUNG BIG MAN SA PBA DAPAT MARUNONG MAG 3 MADALI LANG YON KUNG MAGALING YUNG MGA COACH
KASI SA PBA MAHALAGA YUNG MGA POINTGUARD MAGANDA PANOORIN DAW
HINDI MATUTUTO YUNG BIG MAN KUNG HINDI IPAPASOK
YUNG JORDAN TEAM DALAWA LANG MARUNONG MAG POINT GUARD MALALAKI PERO DI MAGALING MASIPAG LANG SA KA BUO ANG LOOB
YUN BIG MAN TUMAYO LANG ITAAS YUNG KAMAY MAY DEFENSA NA YUNG MALIIT ITAAS MO YUNG KAMAY KILIKILI LANG NUNG BANTAY KAYA MADALING TIRAHAN
LUTS LACITER MAGALING BUMANTAY MASIPAG KAYA DIN NG PURONG PINOY YUN WLA LANG TIWALA C TOROMAN SA PURONG PINOY KAYA PURO FIL AM C AGUILAR KASE PURONG PINOY SAKA C BARACAEL
2 players people aren’t talking about are Chris Banchero and Gabe Norwood. Both players would be valuable additions. Banchero has NBA talent and is some what forgotten because he was hurt for SPU but he is BIG TIME. Norwood can play and is a proven player in the PI. Both can make a impact. Maybe getting another naturalized player could help as well. There is also a guy from Shoreline College in Shoreline Wa who is the real deal and someone to keep a eye on
FILAM NANAMAN WLA YAN
i disagree 6’3 is not enough 4a forward/shooting guard. lahat ng bansa nag improve sa recruitement ng teams in terms of height. W/o douthit wala tayo sa fiba ranks. thats reality! Douthit should be in an MVP FIBA by statistics. Kahit mag lagay pa filams pa dyan kung under size wala din. nagulat ako 2 guards na below 6ft sinabay tapos frwrd 6’3 ayun mismatch sa 6’7 r 6’8 frwrd. height is matter n’ bzball it’s not a football or rugby games. Aguilar,Slaughter,Ramos,de vance,-Parks,norwood,Santos azz s.guards big plus sa Gilas if nasa team. Nway i believe mz ok pa rin ang foreign coach kesa local 4me.
Good Job on Smart Gilas, 4th place is better than no place at all, at least Philippines ranking for 2011 will be far more better than the last. Next step is acquire taller, stronger players with shooting and wrestling skill…. and also maybe try Naturalizing NBA players!!!
e di mga amerikano lang din ang maglalaro para sa Pinas. honestly, ayoko yung addition ni douthit. wala kasi talaga yung dugong pinoy ni isang kikiting. si lutz at lassiter ay fil am. si douthit pure american. pwede naman na pure pinoy and fil ams ang lineup ng team wag lang talaga yung mga ibang lahi.
HINDI NA DAPAT MAG KUHA NG MGA PBA PLAYERS MOST OF THEM PA POGI LANG MATAKOT MA INJURED, LIKE JAMES YAP NKA LARO NA NG INTERNATIONAL NOON HINDI NMAN MSYADO NAG SCORE. HINDI NILA ALAM KUNG MAY DEDICATION SILA SA NATIONAL TEAM AND IF MKA PASOK TAYO SA OLYMPICS MAY EASY OPPURTUNITY SILA NA MA SCOUT AND DRAFT AS NBA PLAYERS MAS MAGANDA PA YON AT MAS PROUD TAYO KUNG MAY MKA PASOK NA PILIPINO SA NBA. MAS MAGANDA MAG KUHA NG FRESH GRAD COLLEGE PLAYERS NA MAS BATA AT MABILIS WITH HEART TO PLAY FOR THE NATION. AT IPA SIGN NG 8 YEARS CONTRACT WITH THE TEAM. IT TAKES LONG YEARS TO BUILD A GREAT TEAM AND EXPOSURE TO INTERNATIONAL PLAYS. WLA TAYONG PLAYERS NA MKA SHOOT KAHIT DIKID ANG DEPENSA. KABADO PARIN TAYO LALO NA SA FREE THROWS, ESPECIALLY WILLIAMS AND RACELA NOON. EXTEND THE GILAS PROGRAM SIR MVP AND MAKE US NATION PROUD IN THE FUTURE.
KAY JAWORSKI DATI MAMAMATAY KA SA LARO GANON DATI ANG BASKETBALL SA PNAS
OK THANKS FOR HAVING MARCUS IN OUR TEAM AND LIFT US UP, PERO SA TOTOO HINDI SYA PINOY, MARAMI TAYONG PLAYERS NA MALAKI NA PURONG PILIPINO NA WILLING TO BE TRAINED FOR INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION. AS I OBSERVE SA KOREA, IRAN AND CHINA ANG KANILANG BIGMEN CENTER ARE NATIVE SA KANILANG COUNTRY, PERO SA NAKITA KO SA GAME HINDI SILA NAGA DEPENDE SA CENTER NILA MOST OF THE FORWARD AND GUARDS ARE THE SCORERS. FOR EMERGENCY LNG KAILANGAN ANG MGA CENTER NILA AT DEFENSE.DPAT PALAKASIN NATIN ANG LOOB NG MGA PLAYERS NATIN TO DEVELOPED THEIR GAME IN ACTUAL SITUATION. PARA LALABAS ANG KANILANG GALING. NAPANSIN KO SA GILAS SA SEMIS PURO KAY MARCUS NLNG NAGA DEPENDE ANG OFFENSE AT SI ALAPAG ANG MAY PAKANA PARANG PBA STYLE. KAHIT NAHIHIRAPAN NA SI MARCUS PINIPILIT PARIN NYA MAG SCORE KASI KAILANGAN AYON NAPAGOD SYA. WHY NOT SPREAD THE OFFENSE AND SHOOT. SYANG SI AGUILAR AT BARACAEL HINDI NAGAMIT BKA SILA SNA ANG SPARK , AT MGA GUARD NATIN NA SILA BARROCA, CASIO AT CHRIS TUI SILA SANA MAGALING MAG SET-UP NG PLAYS PERO NATABUNAN NA SILA NI ALAPAG AT NAGING READABLE NA ANG MGA PLAYS.
VERY TRUE…
Get rid of Chot Reyes for comvincing Raiko Toroman to give more minutes to his Talk N Text players, puro papogi lang naman si Chot Asungot.
C- Slaughter
PF – Douthit
SF – Aguilar
SG – Parks Jr.
PG – Ravena
OTHER NEW BLOODS TO BE CONSIDERED FROM THE COLLEGIATE RANKS:
F/C – Fajardo – 6’10
SF – Ramos (FEU – can shoot 3s)/Van Opstal (DLSU – can be a defensive stopper because of athleticism) – both 6’7
SG – Ferrer(UST)/Torres(DLSU) – both 6’4 and can shoot long range up to 3
PG – RR Garcia – 6’0 konting practice pa as playmaker but can score
1. Marcus Douthit
2. Japeth Aguilar
3. Al Huseini
4. Jay Washington
5. Kelly Williams
6. Joe Devance
7. Ranidel De Ocampo
8. Jarred Dillenger
9. James Yap
10. Dondon Hontiveros
11. Marcio Lassiter
12. Ray Parks
13. Gabe Norwood
14. Sol Mercado
15. Jimmy Alapag
This is the line-up that we need if we want to advance in FIBA tournaments. What we need are players with heart, length and speed. Players who are not scared and are aggressive in driving to the hoop despite big opponents and also shooters that will compliment the quick guards. We need guards that have a quick first step and break down any defense(remember JJ Barea of Dallas?). I hope all owners will lend their players since it is for the flag. We’re so sick and tired of the RP team not making it in big tournaments. TNX!
KUNG C JAPETH AGUILAR MATURUAN MAG SG MAGING SURE BALL SA SA 3
SURE KUKUNIN SA NBA YAN 6.10 MABILIS MATAAS TUMALON SHOOTING MERON NAMAN BINANGKO LANG HINDI SYA PWEDENG PF PAYAT SYA
agree ako sa FF: Douthit, Aguilar (kaya nababangko kung napansin nyo natataranta pa pag powerhouse ang kalaban medyo nawawala sa ikot ng systema ni Torroman), Williams sa depensa at rebound, De Ocampo napatunayan nya na consistent sya sa International basketball: Jared Dillinger consistent sya nung Yeng Guioa team Pilipinas: Hontiveros pang Inernational ang laro inspiration at malaking sahod lang kailangan nito para magbalik loob sa national team: Ray Parks Height,skills and very coach-able can adapt to any system: Alapag subok na sa International basketball at buo ang loob pero tumatanda na
yung mga iba hindi ako maka comment kasi hindi pa subok pang FIBA kaya nga suggestion ko sana palitan na ng PBA rules into FIBA rules para magkaalamanan tapos FIBA trained referees ang gamitin hindi yung mga pulpol referees natin sa PBA..
kay James Yap naman oo aminado ako sobra galing nya sa PBA pero sa mga power house teams sa ASIA sobra sobra kaba nya (was never consistent in International basketball puro useless fouls pa)Si Gabe Norwood naman na sayang ang height at skills noong last PBA backed national team dahil he was never a factor but more of a liability because he probably was not confident and often lost sa coaching system kaya ayun pag closeup sa kanya ng camera natataranta sya na parang si SISA… Sol Mercado’s style is more suited sa pros unless he proves me wrong. kailangan natin ng backup kay douthit at 2 matitinding pure shooters for shooting guard..
meron pa si Kerby Raymundo at Mic Pennisi noong last 2 PBA backed national team sila lang ang lumaban ng buo ang loob when almost everyone was choking and was being manhandled by Jordan, Iran, & company… nagulat nga ako eh nagpapakamatay sa rebound at depensa tapos yung mga ibang superstars na clutch shooters sa PBA hindi man lamang umalog sa ring yung mga tira nung crunch time
1. Marcus Douthit
2. Japeth Aguilar
3. Al Huseini
4. Jay Washington
5. Kelly Williams
6. Joe Devance
7. Ranidel De Ocampo
8. Jarred Dillenger
9. James Yap
10. Dondon Hontiveros
11. Marcio Lassiter
12. Ray Parks
13. Gabe Norwood
14. Sol Mercado
15. Jimmy Alapag
This is the line-up that we need if we want to advance in FIBA tournaments. What we need are players with heart, length and speed. Players who are not scared and are aggressive in driving to the hoop despite big opponents and also shooters that will compliment the quick guards. We need guards that have a quick first step and break down any defense(remember JJ Barea of Dallas?). I hope all owners will lend their players since it is for the flag. We’re so sick and tired of the RP team not making it in big tournaments. TNX!
very good smart gilas…kahit 4th place tau panalo p rin. pru sayang p rin. sana ipinasok c aguilar at inilabas c tiu nong laro nila vs jordan. nx tym sana mlearn tayo godbles u guys..
at sna douthit, aguilar williams barracael casio or alapag. pra mailang nman ung jordan kahit kunti….
masyado maraming napuri sa 1990 asian games kung saan nag second ang pinas. ang toto lang noon eh hindi natin naskalaban ang korea kasi ang kalaban nila ay china sa semi finals . bwenas lang tayo doon.at ang kalaban natin ay ang lagi nating tinatalo na japan.itigil na lang ang programa na yan. ang larong basketball ay para sa matatangkad lang. Sus! mahigit kalahati ng player natin fil-am na talo pa rin.
DBA HINDI RIN NAKALABAN NG SMART ANG IRAN SWERTE TAYO LALO DUN
SAKA LEBANON WLA ELKATHIB SAKA QUATAR KUNG NAKALARO PLAYERS NITO BAKA HINDI TAYO NAKA PASOK KAHIT QUARTER FINALS
KUNG NAKALABAN NG PNAS ANG KOREA NOON SA TINGIN MO BA BIBIGAY YUNG TEAM NI JAWO HINDI MATATALO NG GANON KADALI ANG PNAS NOON FREETROW LANG YUN
KAY JAWO NOON MAMAMATAY KA SA LARO ITURING MONG KAAWAY YUNG BANTAY MO
KAYA TAKOT SA PNAS YUNG KOREA DATI NUNG C JAWO ANG NAG COACH BAKA MAPILAY C MGA SHOOTER NILA
HAHAHAHAHAH!!! Mas mamatay matay sa laro and Smart-Gilas ngayong kesa kay Jawo, mas mabibilis ang practice ng team ngayon. Cone, Guiao, Black were better coaches the Jawo. The reason why PBA didn’t make big improvements because of Jawo. Most basketball fans thought of the PBA was all about Jawo and Ginebra. PITY!!!
NAKIPAG SAPAKAN NA BA SA LARO YANG GILAS MO BADJON TEAMATE NI JAWO NKAPATAY NG CHINO SA FIBA O ABC NOON KAYA BA NG GILAS MO YAN JAWO BINIGYAN NG STYLE YUNG HAPON YON STRECHER NA AGAD D NA NAKATAYO YAN ANG IBIG SABIHIN NG MAMAMATAY SA LARO PAPATAY SA LARO MAPANALO LANG YUNG BANSA
ang lalakas nyo mag-comment, sa playstation lang kasi kayo naglalaro ng basketball
Ito lineup ko for the next Gilas, pero for sure may mga lalabas pang magagaling ng mga players from different basketball groups sa bansa.
01. Marcus Douthit
02. Japeth Aguilar
03. Jay Washington
04. Ranidel De Ocampo
05. Bobby Ray Parks
06. Greg Slaughter
07. Marcio Lassiter
08. Mac Baracael
09. Arwind Santos
10. Chris Lutz
11. Sonny Thoss
12. Kelly Williams
Kung gusto talaga nila ng makakuha ng Championship or Gold Medals, dapat mag-invest ang sports commission sa mga players.
Kumuha din sila ng mga quality players, tamang scouting lang yan at hindi palakasan ng backer at hindi pera-pera.
Go Gilas.. sa next tournament!
WALA KANG POINT GUARD SIR
my future smart gilas team:
1. marcus douthit
2. sudan daniel
3. calvin abueva
4. ronald pascual
5. Kiefer Ravena
6. Bobby Ray Parks Jr.
7. justin cjua
8. kelly williams
9. arwin santos
10. rr garcia
11. kevin alas
12. japet aguilar
great work gilas i hope all big companies like smc and pldt will join hands building new philippine basketball team and create good training for them especially trainings which focuses on physical conditioning and skill development.
What a bunch of p&^%$ lineups these morons makeup, here’s the best lineup for sure FIBA ASIA Gold Medal and Olympic Gold Medal:
1. Joseph Yeo
2. Mark Yee
3. Paul Lee
4. Allan Caidic
5. Gabe Norwood
6. Nate Robinson (1/4 Filipino)
7. Marcus Douthit
8. Ray Ray Parks
9. Gabe Freeman
10. Alex Crisano
11. Bal David
12. Ken Bono
13. Tubid
14. Monfort
15. Kirk Long
NOW Sukk that up!
Smart Gilas better build this lineup now! Sure Gold Medals for all players guaranteed!
1. Joseph Yeo
2. Mark Yee
3. Paul Lee
4. Allan Caidic
5. Gabe Norwood
6. Nate Robinson (1/4 Filipino)
7. Marcus Douthit
8. Ray Ray Parks
9. Gabe Freeman
10. Alex Crisano
11. Bal David
12. Ken Bono
13. Tubid
14. Monfort
15. Kirk Long
To all gilas bashers.. Tigilan na pag down sa team phl, they did the’re best talagang may halong malas lang in the end.. Reaching the semis is already an accomplishment considering the competition ngayon compared to the 70s, 80s and 90s.. When NCC won the 1985 ABC may 2 naturalized americans tayo nun kaya na maximize ang skills nila samboy, allan, hector, etc kasi hindi sila kumukuha sa gunners and china, korea. If not for the americans baka nahrapan din tayo manalo dun. Still nasa record books yun na tayo Asian champions that time. I really hope the gilas program continues, dagdag bawas lang ng ilang players.. Pwede na sigurong ipasok sila ravena, parks, abueva para matrain na. Sayang yung mga papasok ng pba mas maganda sana chance manalo kung maiiwan sa gilas si casio, baracael, 2 filams kasama si douthit na very effective sa fiba.. Sana lang si hontiveros and jyap magkaron the kahit konting nationalistic pride para ma lineup sila. Basta improve FTs dapat para wag na sila matulad kay racela.
CENTER
1 REYNOSO BIG 6.4
2. GUIDABEN 6.5
PF
3. P CESAR 6.3
4. FERNANDEZ RAMON 6.4
SF
5. BOGS ADORNADO 6.3
6. MILENCIO 6.3
SG
7. JAWORSKI 6.2
8. PAPA 6.2
PG
9. FABIOSA 5.8
10.MARTIREZ 5.10
11.FREDIE WEB 6.1
12.ABE KING 6.3
COACH CALOY LOZAGA DIRTY DOZEN ETO ANG NAKARATING SA OLYMPICS
TAMBAK ANG IRAN 70-140 PNAS WIN DKO NA MATANDAAN YUNG MGA PLAYERS
I think we need to hire/naturalize 1 more center. Other national teams already know what to do when playing with us. Just remove Marcus Douthit and the paint is clear. That’s what Iran did on the last Jones cup. When Marcus was removed from the paint, their big men are unstoppable.
This is also what Korea did.
Our guys are talented, but talent is not enough when the opportunities are being blocked and taken by much taller guys.
Our game is very predictable.
Sometimes I think they (Jordan and Iran) just let the Philippines win during the prelims or 1st round so that they will have an easier foe on the semis. Not only on Fiba but also on other tournaments.
Parang bunsong kapatid lang na pinagbigyan. (O ayan, nag mukha ka ng pogi tol, kami naman sa finals)
Very good tactics. Parang diskarte lang sa barangay tournament. Pag alam mong madali ang kalaban, papanalunin mo sa simula para, semis or finals sila yung makakalaban mo.
Worse, Toroman already knew this from the start and is just ignoring or pretending and just kept doing his job to keep the nation’s spirit up especially the fanatics.
good point tol! ngayon feel ko rin na ganun nga talaga ang nangyari.
You guys are all geniuses! Let the guy who pays for this sh!t deal with it. Who the f*ck are you to make lousy lineups, when you’re not the guy who’s financing all this fiasco. I suggest you calm the f*ck down and watch and wait what’s going to happen in the next couple of months.
If you think you’re better that them, by all means, suit up and play or join the coaching staff.
Hay naku! Maski sino ilagay nyo dyan .d n magchachampion pinas. Wala sa coach yan, maski c jawo lagay mo dyan walang mangyayari. 1990 asian games pinaglaruan lng tayo ng china. Samantalang nahirapan sila sa korea. Yun ang panahon na mahina pa ang iran at jordan ns stage pa lng n cla ay nag proprogress samantalang tayo nagreregress. Playstation ,xbox kyo gwa kayo team nandun nman korea ska china s fiba teams talunin nyo nlng don . Kung ako s pinas ibuhos na lang sa boxing,at taekwando dyan tayo talaga sikat, paisa isa lang ang gastos.
buti pa nga. puro sakit sa puso lang ang dulot ng basketball sa pinas lately. (though i admired gilas’ effort and determination)
The truth is only our naturalized player plays good in our team. It is miracle the our team reached semis and our opponents like japan, and Taiwan doesn’t really play well during there games between Philippines. Our defense is good but the offense suck except for Douthit. We luck composure and easily gets nervous during close fights which are like amateurs. They should be like pacquiao, has the heart to win and always believe in God.
Also the team captain doesn’t really help team during crisis. He should prove himself in a professional league in oder for him be one of best player in country and deserving to be in a Philippine team.
Smart Gilas 2
for 2013 FIBA Asia Championship
and 2014 FIBA World Championship
Manager: Manny “MVP” Pangilinan
Coach: Rajko Toroman
Asst.Coach: Chot Reyes
Player Roster:
*Center
Marcus Douthit
Greg Slaughter
Sonny Thoss
*P-Forward
Japeth Aguilar
Kelly Williams
Ranidel De Ocampo
*S-Forward
Ray Ray Parks Jr.
Arwind Santos
Joe Devance
*S-Guard
Marcio Lassiter
James Yap/Gabe Norwood
Dondon Hontiveros
*Guard
Kiefer Ravena
Jimmy Alapag
JV Casio/Jason Castro
Go Smart Gilas 2! Bring Back the Glory to the Philippines!
Next RP Basketball National Team(Personal Opinion):
(1)M.Douthit(C)-6’11 – Match up with Asia’s Giants(BEST CENTER IN ASIA).
(2)G.Slaughter(C)-7’0 – Sub for Douthit,
(3)J.Fajardo(PF)-6’9 – Match up for tall 4 spot players.
(4)J.Aguilar(PF)6’9 – Mobile, Athletic, Shot blocking ability.
(5)J.DeVance(SF)6’8 – Fire power at the 3 spot,
(6)J.Washington(SF)-6’6 – Fire power at the 3 spot,Mobile,athletic
(7)A.Santos(SG/SF)-6’4 – Def.specialist plus fire power
(8)J.Yap(SG)-6’2 – Shooter, slasher, go to guy in clutch situation
(9)C.Baguio(SG)-6’2 – Fast Tempo offense, Slasher
(10)G.Norwood(PG/SG)-6’4 – Athletic,Match up for tall guards, slasher
(11)L.Tenorio(PG)-5’8 – good court generalship, shooter, slasher
(12)R.Reyes(PG)-6’2 – Provide toughness at pg position, slasher, shooter
Reserve(s):(1)S.Eman(C/PF)-6’8,(2)K.Williams(PF)-6’5,(3)R.DeOcampo(SF)-6’6,(4)L.Fornacier-6’2,(5)S.Mercado(PG)-6’0
H.Coach: C.Reyes Consultant: R.Toroman(Architect of RP team)
A.Coach(s):N.Black(def.coach),J.Uichico(off.coach)& T.Cone(Scouting) R.Jaworski (Int’l. Experience.lagot pag pagkalat ang player!)
I agree. I think its time for us to focus our resources in sports where we can have a better chance to be # 1 in the Olympics. Boxing, Taekwondo. Sayang lang pera ni Sir MVP sa basketball. The sport of basketball is a Height and Talent game.The only way for the PH to play in the Olympics is to naturalized active NBA Players if that is possible. Anyway, congrats to the Gilas team for placing 4th. Bitin parin.
Eto lng po masasabi ko, like other team in usa, para mpagaling nla ang players nila ay nag scout cla ng player na my potential lyk aguilar, a 69 player whose athletic, but poor s shooting at post up moves, if u rili want to dvelop it u nid sum1 hu cn teach him the moves, dpt mgkaron sia ng individual shooting coach like gnwa ng mavs ky dirk. Pinapraktis po kc yan para madvelop, eventualy lalo umangat laro nia. Gve hm post up move coach para lalo din madvelop, at bata pa naman, like nba players do, they train hard and discpline too. I gues that goes also para sa ibang plyer na ksma smartglas the coaches must focus their skils mre kysa ipakabisdo agd ang system, dhl madali lng po un mkbsado at gwin kung kumpleto sa rekado ng player. A 4 player na shooter sa tres wid height na 63 to 69. Tpos another lyk taulava pero dpt mtngkad pa sa knya. 2 pointguard na tlgang mgling. At c japhet wg nio alisin he is a potential player just needed 2 be dvelop. Peace !
sa tingin niyo pwede bang maisama sina sudan daniel at garvo lanite
What’s next for smart gilas?
FIBA Championnships 2013.
Thanks to MVP, willing p dn syng somuporta sa basketball, most beloved sport by most of filipinos.At sana mkatulong ang point of view ko pra s preparations for upcoming jousts. STEP 1. SELECT THE PLAYERS, MVP qouted He wants a taller point guard, sa mga previous comments ko, things na tnitingnan k for a good player 1.HEART (dapat un all out maglaro at persistent) 2. SIZE (acceptable height at played position, bawasan m un average at max 3″) 3. SKILL. (shot selection, ind. defense,ball handling-eto nakukuha thru training and experiences)- best example ko dito ay si MANU GINOBILI (6’5″+), look at how this guy play, that’s why he excels in both the fiba arena and in the NBA. He has all my parameters. Pede c Gabe Norwood (6’5″)kulang lng tlga sa puso or un intensity s laro(pag drive with tenacity) ang lacking andun n sna lhat.
STEP 2. PREPARE THEM, tama un sbi ng isang fan, we should have specific skill trainer (shooting, defense, post moves) pra ma improve un weakness ng player. expose them s FIBA style, expose them sa PRO style basketball. Now kung mag iinclude ng pro players kelangan tlga ma expose din cla s FIBA style (especially fouls called, defense orientations) A way to do this if we’re getting the main core ng NT from PRO ranks is to adopt a separate conference in the PBA pag may upcoming international events, 1 conference is enough to expose them s FIBA style (pra din 2ng board exams, dpt pagaralan kun ano ang type ng exam).Advantage pag galing s PRO ranks ang players where most talents in our country plays(hasa na, iexpose n lng ng tama ksi example un fouls, akala pde eh hndi nga-disadvantage, hindi allout maglaro,kesyo ma injury). expose din s tall defenders pra sanay o hindi “ilang”. this means alisin un height limit ng imports for this conference, un ibng players n manggagaling s GILAS PROGRAM eto prng investment pr ma sustain ang NT. Dpat all PBA teams ang mag sponsor dito dhil dito din cla mag dadraft just like what happened to LUTZ and others. Kumbga pagpasok s PROGRAM papirmahin n ng contract.
3. SUPPORT THEM(financial and emotional), bka pede din iinvolve kming fans s pagpili nun players thru online voting, lalakas p lalo hatak ng basketball dito ksi involved un fans.
Heto ang PROSPECTS k based on my parameters.
PG- ave height(INTERNATIONAL LEVEL)- 6’3″- SOL MERCADO (6’0″), ALEX CABAGNOT (6’0″)
SG- ave height- 6’5″- GABE NORWOOD (6’5), PETER JUN SIMON (6’2″), CYRUS BAGUIO (6’2″)
SF- ave height- 6’8″- ARWIND SANTOS (6’6″)
PF- ave height- 6’10″- JAPETH AGUILAR (6’9″), KELLY WILLIAMS (6’7″)
C- ave height- 7’0″- MARCUS DOUTHIT (6’10″-athletic)
All the rest from the GILAS PROGRAM: Ravena,Parks, Lassiter, Lutz
POSIBBLE BIG MEN to train,
SAMIGUE EMAN (agile at 6’10″), FAJARDO (good), SLAUGHTER (he needs to toughen up)
Now looking at these talents, cno magsasabing ala hyt pinas, limang players lng ang nsa court, we have acceptable hyt and talent, PUSO (determination n dapat ipakita s paglaro ang kelangan)
Have patience with Aguilar, ma develop lng post defense nya at some post moves (footwork), He’ll be great.
Sol Mercado/ALex Cabagnot- slashers and has good shooting, pero i’m looking for a cerebral point guard like the Flying “A”, mki2ta m kaibhan kya c sol hindi n knuha ni toroman ksi hndi sya effective s FIBA maybe kelangan ny lng masanay.
P.J.SIMON- this guy has the heart and skill, lacking lng s size at 6’2″.
CYRUS BAGUIO- needs to improve his shot selection, turnovers. kelangan ma expose din s true FIBA style.
K.WILLIAMS- VERY GOOD OVERALL DEFENDER, freethrows dpat ksi hindi n sya ipinasok nun ksi crucial tym n,We have the pieces they just have to perform at their best, intensity ang lacking pg s international arena n, so they should be exposed starting s PBA where they play most of the time.
1 more thing, s conference ng PBA na FIBA format. We need to hire true FIBA refs, the game is only as good as the officiating eka nga. Pra close as to real FIBA ang simulation ntn ng mga games so we can select the players n effective s FIBA style, but the bottom of all we need guys that plays with a lot of heart. Thanks and sana my mkabasa from the PBA and all concerned s basketball ntin.
malabo to. closest thing is may mag seminar na fiba ofish. unanag una, mawawalan ng trabaho yung mga refs ng pba na may kontrata sila. pangalawa, yung mga pba ofish na may comish dun sa kontrata sa pba refs. fiba format, ayos na tayo jan. baby steps. nalason na kc tayo ng pba. masyado na pogi ang mga players. kaya pag totoong trabaho/laro na, tamad na sila. na appreciate ko si baguio, nagpepresinta sumali sa gilas. pero sad to say, hindi bagay ang style nya dun. wait na lang tayo, and supportahan sila. go gilas!
To frank, pare basketbol nga gusto eh. Taekwondo? lamang din dyan ang mahaba, imagine m nga 6’3″ against 5’7″ lalapit k p lng abot k n ng sipa. Swimming ganun din, Volleyball, Boxing (reach). Pde cgro chess, billiards, shot put, javellin throw.
Rank 45 na tau… Okie n un sa ngaun… Nxt tym rank 24 na tau nyan… Kaya dapat champion n tau…
Maganda nmn ung pnakta ng gilas… Hndi nga lng strog ung fnish natin… Pro naging rank 45 n tau… Magandang cnyalz un…
congrtas xa smart gilas for wining 4th place in the fiba asia.. sayang hindi ntin nkuha ang goal na mka pasok xa olympics but still two thumbs up xa effort ng gilas.. continue lng natin ang program, sana my iba png mayaman na true basketball fan na tumulong ky MVP.. huwag na kayong m.nuod ng pba! puro na sakim xa pera ang g.hari dyan.. negosyo nlng pba ngayon.. true basketball fan dw cla pero bali wla xa kanila mkita tinatalo ang pinas ng ibang bansa, samantalang nsa knila lahat ng power pra palakasin ang team ng bayan.. lets face it nsa pba ang best players natin.. how can we win if ayaw cla phiram ng team nla pra xa bayan? kaya tumigil na ako ng pba, watch fiba games ng europe doon nyu mkita ang tunay na laro ng basketball.. wlng pera pera karangalan ng bansa ang priority! go gilas
huwag nyu nman tirahin c douthit.. kahit hindi cya pinoy pinakita nya ng fiba asia na mkikipaglaban din cya pra xa bandila ng pinas.. uso na naturalize player ngayon, kahit spain nga na sobra na ang lakas kumuha pa ng naturalize player.. but i agree and i speak cguro for all the pinoy na sana huwag nman c dougthit nlng lahat ang gumagawa.. we have good ofensive and defensive players din dito xa pinas.. kailangan lng payagan cla mg.laro ng pba teams nla.. i rily belive if we can unite as 1 team kaya talaga ntin to wth a good preparation.. tigilan na natin ang isyu xa fil.am.. my dugong pinoy din mga yan, lets pick the best of them together wth the best of the pure pinoys, pba, amateurs, combine natin lahat to form the best we could rily ofer the world.. kaya natin to.. go gilas!
fajardo, slaughter, parks, ravena.. eto yung mga magbibigay satin ng oly slot. pero palagay ko, hindi lang dapat 2-3 yrs ang program ng gilas.. maybe 5-8 yrs pa. by that time, meron na din tayo pure shooter. more imptly, mas may displina na ang ph basketball. pero for 2013 qualifier, add natin siguro sina norwood, jr reyes, tenorio, alapag, williams, ranidel, james yap, ryan reyes, j wash, arwind.. sure na siguro ang top 2 jan. go gilas, go team pilipinas!
best line-up (WITH HEIGHT)
CENTER – 1. Slaughter 2. Thoss 3. Eman
POWER FORWARD – 1. Douthit 2. Japeth 3. Fajardo
SMALL FORWARD – 1. Jay Wash 2. Kelly Williams 3. Joe DeVance
SHOOTING GUARD – 1. Arwind 2. Lassiter 3. Parks/Lutz
POINT GUARD – 1. Norwood 2. Solomon 3. Castro
This is a very tall line-up who could match height for height in international competition, if these line-up could play together for at least a year, i believe they could play at par (or even dominate) with Asian powerhouses… believe me guys…. if only i have the resources, which MVP has, i will assemble this team. This is an open letter for MVP, pls. sir consider this, the feeling of a filipino everytime we lose important games knowing that we could have done better is untolerable. it hits us straight to the heart… many thanks
I was really disappointed until now, dalawa lng lamang ng korea sa atin, tapos lamang pa tayo ng 13 points nung end of the 3rd quarter, mahina kasi sa free throws sana ma aaus na natin un. si williams. have 1/6 sa free throw lalo na nung last free throw nya. syang dba? kya nga sana pgbutihin pa ang free throw shooting.
As much as I hate reading Recah Trinidad’s Inquirer article because of his often times super negative criticism and Gilas bashing, he always has a point. Like today’s article (Sept. 29 2011) he pointed out that the last 5 shots scored by the Korea squad, 3 out of 5 were shots taken from the so called “wrong foot” practiced by Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and played to perfection by Dirk Norwitzki which in my opinion is Soo True.. If you’re really a fan of basketball and watch the different basketball styles all over the world you will see that majority of the European players use this technique which was popularized by a korean basketball player in the 70′s. I remember back when i was watching the 1990 Asian games and saw for the first time how other asian countries played, my basketball fanatic friends and I would laugh at how funny the Korea and China team played. Their lay-ups and shooting looked awkward and funny (layman’s term “Balibag-Tae”). Unknowingly it would be the foundation of the power house Asian teams like China and Korea and world champoin teams like Spain, Argentina and Germany.. My point is this Basketball Heads in our country should put an end to their useless politicking and have one goal which is to save Philippine Basketball and go straight to the grass roots program. I still hate Recah Trinidad for Being so negative but i still thank him for proving a point and i still read his articles.
CENTER – 1. Slaughter 2. Thoss 3. Eman
POWER FORWARD – 1. Douthit 2. Japeth 3. Fajardo
SMALL FORWARD – 1. Jay Wash 2. Kelly Williams 3. Joe DeVance
SHOOTING GUARD – 1. Arwind 2. Lassiter 3. Parks/Lutz
POINT GUARD – 1. Norwood 2. Solomon 3. Castro
what do you think of this line-up guys?
i believe that douthit can play power forward. with that, we can have a very tall line-up with slaughter at the center.. kaunting praktis pa at experience kaay slaughter ok na…tingan nyo line-up ko, malalaki di ba… di kaya ng china or korea na hanapan ng mismatch yan… sila ang mismatch sa point guard kay norwood… di kayang i-dominate ni daghles si norwood sa PG gaya ng ginawa niya kina casio and company… on the contrary, si norwood ang magdodminate sa mismatch na ito…
Recah Trinidad is in the payroll of SMC kaya puro nega sa Gilas program yan,
kung SMC may hawak ng SBP puro papuri gagawin nyan.. Ignore nalang sya, wala naman bilang yan eh..
Tigilan na sana ng SMC pamumulitika sa sports, nakakasira na sila eh..
Just like kay hontiveros, fatigue daw kaya nag quit sa gilas, not once nakapasok sa finals team nya pano sya mapapagod? Hindi pinayagan ng SMC
kaya iniwan team Phl, sayang malaki sana pakinabang nya sa team.
kaya hindi na rin ako nanonood ng PBA.. dapat palitan ang PBA to SMBA (San Miguel Basketball Association) diba yan din ang reklamo ni Fred Uytengsu at mga ibang owners? pero pamumulitika aside, sa lahat ng sablay ni Recah Trinidad meron talaga syang point doon sa column na yun… yung “wrong foot” isipin mo nalang na para kang bumantay ng kaliwete na hindi… unorthodox at madalas nakakatawang tingnan kasi mukhang balibag-tae pero mahirap bantayan, unpredictable at sobrang effective kapag inaral at ginamit sa tamang paraan.
Kung Ang China nga tinatambakan ng mga European team, Kaya Hinde dapat Ikahiya ang pagkatalo, Buti na lang pinapalabas sa BTV yung mga Fiba Games, napapanuod ang mga laro ng ibang Asian teams na sumasali sa mga European Exibition Games. Sana Ipalabas din sa IBC13/ACtiveTV Sports para naman marami makapanuod na ang China din ay Natatalo sa ibang European Teams, para naman hinde tau malungkot sa pagkatalo ng ating Smart Gilas. Tsaka Sana si Japeth Lumaki na katawan, lahat yata ng naglalaro sa PBA lumalakas ang Depensa, Mahalaga talaga ang PBA, Kumuha din kaya ng mga Free Agents na malalaki sa Smart Gilas, Katulad ni Don Camaso, malaking small forward shooting guard yn.
Wala talagang improvements ang team phil. kahit ano gawin natin naunahan pa tau ng jordan.small country lng d p cla ganun ka addict sa basketball d kgaya natin no 1 sport pa naman ang basketball… bat kaya? sa tagal na natin sumasali sa intl competition laging na lng palpak e.since 90′s napapanood ko na ung intl team natin.. ala dpat tau ika proud sa team natin.d dpat tau maging ok na lng sa pgka 4th. d yan ang goal natin..palitan na lang karamihan sa team. i maintain lng c japeth aguilar, tingin ko cia lng ung may potential, binangko pa ni toroman..haayy…kng di lng kay douhtit sa kangkungan tau pupulutin..
TAMA KA DYAN
@ craig..damn i totally disagree..cmon men are u even a filipino? those guys played their hearts out for flag and country tpos un lang ang sasabhin mo? wow… i understand the disappointments pero para sabhin n ala tyong dapat ikaproud sa team ntin?? that’s wrong..
I’m very proud of our national squad.. on my own opinion this is the best finished by our national team.. although hindi tyo umabot sa olympics or even sa qualifiers marami p nmng time e ..there’s always a room for improvements.. go Gilas
i think toroman should stay. we have a system which is very effective for international play.we have a good coaching staff. a few suggestions for our next gilas team
1. dapat ung next players natin ay 6’5 pataas starting from the point guard postion to the center position who can shoot from the outside, can play defense, and can run the floor of course alapag will always be there..like (gabe norwood). e.g
2. we should train 7 footers who can shoot outside not necessarily threes but can spread the floor.. like aguilar . i believe this young man has a soft touch from the outside
3.we should train greg slaughter for the center position para my kapalitan si douthit sa post..
Terrence Romeo…pramis.
Slaughter not redi for fiba, dpt m22 cia ng mga basic post up play sby jump shot, c japhet kylangan nia mgdgdg pa ng moves na sa tngin q 2long ng post up play ni bong hawkins ng alaska or alvin patrimonio. C slaughter kylangan mag gym at phrmin cla ni many pacquiao ng conditioning coach para mgng atlethc at pataasin pa dapat talon nia kc para lng sia pnabata na ej feihl. At last, dba my contrata pa c douthit? Bkt d cia gwin coach din ng mga bigman ntn, lht ng ckreto nia na moves at mga routine para mgng atlethic dpt i2ro nia d2, mkacreate tau ng 4 or 3 or 2 bigmen na 2lad nia eh di laking improvement na un. Sna maisip nla un, para d luge sa byad ky douthit. And then kunin shooting coach c caidic at ritualo mkproduce tau ng japhet na my perimeter eh laki 2long na rin un. Hanap lng ng 2 pg na hyt ay 62 hnggng 64 pde na yan.
SMART GILAS 2013 LINE-UP
1.Marcus Douthit (C) 6’11″
2.Japeth Aguilar (PF) 6’9″
3.Joe Devance (SF) 6’7″
4.Larry Fonacier (SG) 6’2″
5.Sol Mercado (PG) 6’0″
6.Greg Slaughter (C) 6’11″ 11.Ray Parks Jr. (SG) 6’4″
7.J. Fajardo (PF) 6’10″ 12.Kelly Williams (SF) 6’5″
8.Ranidel De Ocampo(SF) 6’6″ 13.Jay Washington (SF) 6’7″
9.Ryan Reyes (SG) 6’2″
10.Chris Tiu (PG) 5’11″
BAKIT D NATIN DALHIN YONG MGA BIGMEN NATIN SA AMERIKA PARA DUN MAGTRAINING KAGAYA NI JAPETH,,SAYANG YONG MGA BIGMEN NATIN DITO NABABANGKO KUNG MINSAN..KUNG MINSAN PINAPILITAN PA NG MAS MALIIT..HEHE.
ANG HINAHANAP KASI NATIN KUNG MINSAN AY UNG MAGALING NA EH.LOOK AT KOREA PURO KOREANS ANG MGA PLAYERS PERO MAGANDA PA RIN ANG RESULTA.MAS MAGALING SILA SA ATIN.HWAG NA TAU KASING MAGHANAP PA NG PHIL-AM.ITRAIN N LNG UNG MGA BIG GUYS NATIN.
SANA PAGBALIK NI COACH RAIKO SIYA PA RIN COACHNG PHILS.
pwede pa rin c cris tiu.basta ilagay natin siya sa point guard position.sa sg kc matatangkad na ung dapat dun.6’2″-6’6″.kagaya ni ryan reyes,harvey carey(good defender),gabe norwood.
here are some of sugggestion for the team:
1.players dapat 26-29 pagdating ng fiba..will except douthit and alapag
2.players dapat galing sa pba para matured
3.coach raiko tororman should remain as caoch
PS Name Height Avg. yr.
C -Neautralize 7feet
PF-Gian Chiu 6-9 5.0 Sr.
SF-Christian Standhardinger 6-8 9.0 Jr.
SG-Bobby Parks 6-4 20.0 Rk.
PG-Keifer Ravena 6-0 13.4 Rk.
C -Greg Slaugther 6-11 13.4 Sr.
PF-Junmar fajardo 6-10 25.0 Jr.
SF-Nico Monacini 6-6 9.0 Jr.
SG-Ronald Pascual 6-3 19.8 Jr.
PG-Chris Banchero 6-1 22.4 Sr.
C -Yousef Taha 6-8 12.1 Rk.
PF-Aldrech Ramos 6-6 11.0 Sr.
SF-Nico Salva 6-4 13.4 Sr.
SG-Alex Nuyles 6-2 15.2 Jr.
PG-RR Garcia 5-10 16.1 Jr.
C -Van opstal 6-9 Rk.
PF-Clifford Hodge 6-5 Gr.
SF-Chris Ellis 6-4 Gr.
SG-Kevin Ferrer 6-4 Rk.
PG-Mark Tallo 5-11 HS.
SG-Mike Silungan 6-3 Jr.
SG-Chris newsome 6-2 Rk.
SG-Jeron Teng 6-2 HS.
PG-Phillip Morrison 6-0 21.7 Gr.
PG-Chris tiu 5-11 Gr.
Wlang kwenta rin kong halos puro crossbreed o naturalized ang mga players natin. Money at fame ang hinahabol dyan, they lack heart of a true Filipino. Bakit sa bansa tuland ng china , iran, japan, at korea na halos ng players ay pure ang lahi pero magaling mglaro? Yun ang isipin ng mga basketball experts natin,dapat mgahanap sila players dito sa ating bansa na may talent at bigyan sila ng wastong training. Hindi na kailangan ng mga Fil-foreign,sa 101 million natin dito wala kayong mahanap?
halos lahat ng comment xa pba ang blame.. kaya mgka isa na tayu at huwag na manood ng pba.. bigay nlng xa san miguel lahat ng championship pra mkuha nla yung record na pnaka maraming titles na profesional team.. laro nlng tayu xa kanto masaya pa tayu.. wlng kwenta na pba ngayon, swapang mga owners!
Wlang kwenta pumili ng player ang smatgilas dahil maliliit lang kanilang mga mata.
ang kulang sa sistema ng basketball sa atin ay tamang programa..sa ngaun tama lang na may naturalized player tayo.pero dapat paglipas ng panahon dapat tunay na pinoy na dapat ung nasa center position..itrain lang sila.kagaya ni fajardo,proper training lng ang kailangan niyan.baka may susunod pa na mas malaki d un na.
sa tingin ko nagkulang tayo sa no.3 position last fiba-asia sana ipinahiram ng petron c arwind santos at sa power forward c sonny thoss.
Filipino players were as good as other countries. We were once a Powerhouse in Asia. Our success in latest FIBA Asia tournament is the best in 24 years.And coach Toroman did a good job considering the limited players he can choose from the pro league.His system works. What lacks in our system is commitment. If We look at the situation right now we are to train again new players. The former Smart Gilas players is now under the terms of their mother teams and that questions their commitment in future tournaments. If you look at other Asian teams like Korea, China and Jordan they have players who play for their national team for 10 years or so. Here our players once enters the pro league its hard for them to commit wholeheartedly into our national team. We might need new players but if we want to become no.1 in Asia it is more than 100% commitment.
Daming marunong dito sa thread, tagal ko nang tinitingnan site nato at nababasa comment ng mga kababayan. Sa aking pananaw at sa napapanood ko sa mga laban ng ating National Team, talagang may problema tayo pagdating sa Height. Di ko maintindihan kung bakit laging 3 players sa loob ng court laging under six(6) feet? Even sa FIBA kitang kita ang height mismatch, sa statistics ng rebound at second chance point napakababa ng percentage natin. Sana wag na nating ipilit ang sestema ng PBA sa International competition. Height is might in international competition. If we got much taller player with talent the better. Pagtiyagaan nating i-train sila Jopeth Aguilar, Junemar Fajardo at Greg Slaughter, isama narin nating itrain as pointguard si Gabe Northwoods dahil may height at talent sa ball handling ang bata. I’m disapointed pag napapanood ko sa RP 5 laging may 3 maliliit sa arena, example nalang laging magkasabay sila Tiu, Barroca at Alapag or Casio respectively, do we think they can depend the frontline of our opponent which is 6feet 5inches or more? It’s time for us na sana ma notice ng coaching staff and management ito. It’s only my opinion coz i love this sport and for the love of our Country. God Bless the Philippines!
Kung hindi makukuha si Coach Toroman, siguro puwede naman ibalik si Coach Tim cone after 21 yearas noong 1988 FIBA Asia Championship. Actually, magagaling naman ang mga kinukugha ng Smart Gilas pero hindi kaso sanay ang Pilipinas na tumapos ng close games. Dapat ay sinayan natin ang ating depensa para matalo ang mga kalaban.
toroman should stay, douthit.. tapos tanggapin na natin na kailanagn natin si douthit kukang tayo sa height . there is no such thing as filipino pride here.. if you are a fan of basketball and analyse the situation .. we need big and athletic players to match china, korea and middle east countries like jordan and iran… we have the talent no question about that but we need a player like douthit.. we neeed 2 or 3 more .. va bene .. ragazzi?
we need long term basketball program. ang hirap sa atin gusto tayong manalo pero kulang tayo sa preparation.we don’t need douthit anymore but we need best trainer in terms of bigman position so that we can maximize our bigman like. Greg slauther, Junemar Fajardo, Japeth Aguilar,samague eman,Gian Chui, sonny thoss, jason balesteros. sa wingman & point guard position wala tayong problema marami tayong talent in our country but we long term basketball program. kailangan at least 8 year program everyday may practice & it need also many international exposure.
we don’t need toroman marami tayong magagaling na coach tim cone, chot reyes, norman black, joel banal, coach yeng but we need to give them enough time to prepare.